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republican chuck hagel is looking like the person president obama would like to put in charge of the pentagon. josh rogan at foreign policy first breaking the news on the nomination and noting in the same breath all the republican senators that are against the nomination. john cornyn saying he can't support chuck hagel because he has a, quote, problem with israel. senator dan coates said chuck hagel has had so much disrespect for the military which is a pretty rich thing to say about a veteran. he would lack experience he would need for the job. senator mccain says his colleague barely even counts as a republican. senator mark kirk says he is, quote, concerned about mr. hagel. mr. hagel also faces opposition from the democratic side for the time back in 1998 when he opposed an ambassador nominee for being what mr. hagel described at the time openly aggressively guy, for which he finally apologized last month. there is also opposition to a lesser extent just because chuck haguele is a republican. this is not ideological opposition. it's partisan. but in the technical sense of that. why is it t
republican chuck hagel is looking like the person president obama would like to put in charge of the pentagon. josh rogan at foreign policy first breaking the news on the nomination and noting in the same breath all the republican senators that are against the nomination. john cornyn saying he can't support chuck hagel because he has a, quote, problem with israel. senator dan coates said chuck hagel has had so much disrespect for the military which is a pretty rich thing to say about a veteran....
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that's it for the pentagon. yes, there is a great desire with john brennan to demilitaryize the cia. >> now, speaking of afghanistan in town today. hamid karzai at the pentagon today and on the hill and later will be at the state department for dinner with hillary clinton. he was with leon panetta today. this comes shortly after he sat down with our own atia and just ehave is rated u.s. policy. >> he has a problem with this new team, though. you remember a couple of years ago three senators went and met with him, and there was -- for dinner. karzai in kabul. there was -- they raised the issue of corruption in his government, and it became a big incident. joe biden, hagel, and john kerry? zeefs later sent as a private envoy to smooth things over with karzai. >> true, but this is -- karzai must look at the leadership of the second obama administration and see a message coming for him then. what the troop levels will be after 2014 and will there even be u.s. troops there? >> ruth marcus, the white house is telling
that's it for the pentagon. yes, there is a great desire with john brennan to demilitaryize the cia. >> now, speaking of afghanistan in town today. hamid karzai at the pentagon today and on the hill and later will be at the state department for dinner with hillary clinton. he was with leon panetta today. this comes shortly after he sat down with our own atia and just ehave is rated u.s. policy. >> he has a problem with this new team, though. you remember a couple of years ago three...
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the same report, the pentagon's own report shows after the u.s. troop surge in afghanistan, violence in that country was actually higher than it was before the surge, not lower than it was before the surge. so in what case was the surge a success? so it is a bit rich that the reason we can afford to speed up the ending of this war is because things have worked out so well in this war. it's a bit rich. but you know what? the supposed reason we could leave iraq is because of the stable democratic iraqi government we left behind, right? success of the surge and all that. well, the day after we left iraq, the prime minister of iraq issue and arrest warrant for the vice president of iraq, the very next day after we left. so that little story we told ourselves on the way out of that war, that was pretty rich too. but knowing that, do you wish we were still in iraq? do you wish we hadn't left? more importantly, even we do not hit any of the supposed benchmarks that we tell ourselves irrelevant for why and when we can leave, peace in the provinces, or the
the same report, the pentagon's own report shows after the u.s. troop surge in afghanistan, violence in that country was actually higher than it was before the surge, not lower than it was before the surge. so in what case was the surge a success? so it is a bit rich that the reason we can afford to speed up the ending of this war is because things have worked out so well in this war. it's a bit rich. but you know what? the supposed reason we could leave iraq is because of the stable democratic...
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look, there is guys like ash carter who is the current number two at the pentagon who knows how that place works inside and out, and is a nuclear freakin' physicist for real. so i think he could execute the cuts just fine too. >> without the different levels of political liability? does it insulate hagel at all? >> it doesn't seem like it's insulating him right now. i'm not buying it for later in. >> if john brennan gets confirmed to lead the cia, what do you think that would mean for that agency going forward? would you expect any inflect breezy the panetta era there? >> i think that makes the cia maybe the most important shop in town, right? so theoretically, the director of national intelligence, jim clapper sits over the cia and the 15 other intelligence agencies. you know, it was clapper who said to david petraeus, look, bro, you got to go after his affair. it's pretty hard to imagine jim clapper saying something similar to john brennan, who has been sitting with the president in the oval office day after day, directing drone strikes, also working on cyber issues which are very
look, there is guys like ash carter who is the current number two at the pentagon who knows how that place works inside and out, and is a nuclear freakin' physicist for real. so i think he could execute the cuts just fine too. >> without the different levels of political liability? does it insulate hagel at all? >> it doesn't seem like it's insulating him right now. i'm not buying it for later in. >> if john brennan gets confirmed to lead the cia, what do you think that would...
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and later the pentagon lifts a ban on women in combat and the righties are all up in arms about that. goldie taylor will join me and we'll get her take. don't forget you can listen to my radio show on sirius xm radio channel 127. share your thoughts with us on facebook and twitter using the #edshow and we are coming right back. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. >>> welcome back. they attempted to bully secretary of state clinton yesterday. they were back at it again today. senators mccain, johnson, and paul are ignoring the truth about the attack on benghazi so they can advance their rig
and later the pentagon lifts a ban on women in combat and the righties are all up in arms about that. goldie taylor will join me and we'll get her take. don't forget you can listen to my radio show on sirius xm radio channel 127. share your thoughts with us on facebook and twitter using the #edshow and we are coming right back. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep....
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and later the pentagon lifts a ban on women in combat and the righties are all up in arms about that. goldie taylor will join me and we'll get her take. don't forget you can listen to my radio show on sirius xm radio channel 127. share your thoughts with us on facebook and twitter using the #edshow and we are coming right back. >>> welcome back. they attempted to bully secretary of state clinton yesterday. they were back at it again today. senators mccain, johnson, and paul are ignoring the truth about the attack on benghazi so they can advance their right-wing agenda. secretary of state hillary clinton smacked down tea party senator ron johnson yesterday. johnson blundered again at senator john kerry's confirmation hearing today. >> you work with me then on an ongoing basis so we can get that behind us so we can find out what actually happened. >> senator, in all fairness, i think we do know what happened. i think that it is very clear. were you at the briefing with the tapes? >> no. >> well, there was a briefing with tapes which we all saw, those of us who went to it, which made it
and later the pentagon lifts a ban on women in combat and the righties are all up in arms about that. goldie taylor will join me and we'll get her take. don't forget you can listen to my radio show on sirius xm radio channel 127. share your thoughts with us on facebook and twitter using the #edshow and we are coming right back. >>> welcome back. they attempted to bully secretary of state clinton yesterday. they were back at it again today. senators mccain, johnson, and paul are...
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cutting the pentagon? that's 30% of the federal budget. we are winding down two wars. but do you hear them talking about cutting defense? no, you don't. they just want to cut the social safety net. >> that's what it's all about. joan walsh and cynthia tucker, thanks for your time to be the. >> thanks, reverend. good to be here. >> ahead, republicans are already threatening to hold the economy hostage to get what they want. are the democrats ready to stand strong? this man is. he's back. the king of political haymakers reelected to congress, back in the house and ready to defend democratic values. he joins us live next. >>> and as the gop brand free falls, chris christie rises a day after his blistering attack on john boehner, we have news on the governor's next move. stay tuned. >>> plus, white house photos revealed. behind-the-scenes presidential shots you don't want to miss. you're watching politics nation on msnbc. [ male announcer ] no matter what city you're playing tomorrow. [ coughs ] ♪ [ male announcer ] you can't let a cold keep you up tonight. vicks nyquil
cutting the pentagon? that's 30% of the federal budget. we are winding down two wars. but do you hear them talking about cutting defense? no, you don't. they just want to cut the social safety net. >> that's what it's all about. joan walsh and cynthia tucker, thanks for your time to be the. >> thanks, reverend. good to be here. >> ahead, republicans are already threatening to hold the economy hostage to get what they want. are the democrats ready to stand strong? this man is....
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republican chuck hagel is looking like the person president obama would like to put in charge of the pentagon. josh rogan at foreign policy first breaking the news on the nomination and noting in the same breath all the republican senators that are against the nomination. john cornyn saying he can't support chuck hagel because he has a, quote, problem with israel. senator dan coates said chuck hagel has had so much disrespect for the military which is a pretty rich thing to say about a veteran. he would lack experience he would need for the job. senator mccain says his colleague barely even counts as a republican. senator mark kirk says he is, quote, concerned about mr. hagel. mr. hagel also faces opposition from the democratic side for the time back in 1998 when he opposed an ambassador nominee for being what mr. hagel described at the time openly aggressively guy, for which he finally apologized last month. there is also opposition to a lesser extent just because chuck hagel is a republican. this is not ideological opposition. it's partisan. but in the technical sense of that. why is it tha
republican chuck hagel is looking like the person president obama would like to put in charge of the pentagon. josh rogan at foreign policy first breaking the news on the nomination and noting in the same breath all the republican senators that are against the nomination. john cornyn saying he can't support chuck hagel because he has a, quote, problem with israel. senator dan coates said chuck hagel has had so much disrespect for the military which is a pretty rich thing to say about a veteran....
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republican chuck hagel is looking like the person president obama would like to put in charge of the pentagon. josh rogan at foreign policy first breaking the news on the nomination and noting in the same breath all the republican senators that are against the nomination. john cornyn saying he can't support chuck hagel because he has a, quote, problem with israel. senator dan coates said chuck hagel has had so much disrespect for the military which is a pretty rich thing to say about a veteran. he would lack experience he would need for the job. senator mccain says his colleague barely even counts as a republican. senator mark kirk says he is, quote, concerned about mr. hagel. mr. hagel also faces opposition from the democratic side for the time back in 1998 when he opposed an ambassador nominee for being what mr. hagel described at the time openly aggressively gay, for which he finally apologized last month. there is also opposition to a lesser extent just because chuck hagel is a republican. this is not ideological opposition. it's partisan. but in the technical sense of that. why is it tha
republican chuck hagel is looking like the person president obama would like to put in charge of the pentagon. josh rogan at foreign policy first breaking the news on the nomination and noting in the same breath all the republican senators that are against the nomination. john cornyn saying he can't support chuck hagel because he has a, quote, problem with israel. senator dan coates said chuck hagel has had so much disrespect for the military which is a pretty rich thing to say about a veteran....
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rather just answer the question, is he going to be able to fight and lead the pentagon and make certain that our troops get the resources they need, the training they need, the support that they need. rather than focusing on that, they're off looking at whether or not something he said 15 years ago, some policy question and, unfortunately, it may command an awful lot of attention, but i do think at the end of the day that enough republicans and democrats will look at chuck hagel, will examine his record, will consider what he's done and what he's capable of doing, and they'll vote to confirm. >> let's take a look at the analysis we just heard from a combat vet himself, medal of honor winner we just talked to, and he's going to be back in a minute. let me ask you about this, steve, the gay rights thing. this country has moved like a blitzkrieg, to use a bad metaphor, for 20, 30 years. i have moved so far. i'm a pretty liberal guy, but i moved -- >> what were you saying 14 years ago? >> i wasn't saying this, but i wasn't going out to get hormel, and i wasn't calling him aggressively gay o
rather just answer the question, is he going to be able to fight and lead the pentagon and make certain that our troops get the resources they need, the training they need, the support that they need. rather than focusing on that, they're off looking at whether or not something he said 15 years ago, some policy question and, unfortunately, it may command an awful lot of attention, but i do think at the end of the day that enough republicans and democrats will look at chuck hagel, will examine...
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picks to run the pentagon and the cia. that's if they make it through the senate gauntlet. >>> this morning we'll meet one of the faces of the gop. freshman congressman tom cotton of arkansas. got a big crowd of conservatives. grinning from ear to ear already about his future in his party. >>> and richard nixon would have turned 100 years old today if he were still alive. find out how his legacy is still trying to get shaped by his supporters and why he might be the most consequential american politician in the last half century. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, january 9th, 2013. this is the daily rundown. i'm chuck todd. right to my first reads of the morning. the end of the month deadline provides president biden's task force on gun violence to present its proposals is quickly approaching. today biden, cabinet members and senior staff kick off a series of meetings with what the white house describes as stake holders in this debate aimed at trying to produce a consensus or proposals to curb gun violence. tod
picks to run the pentagon and the cia. that's if they make it through the senate gauntlet. >>> this morning we'll meet one of the faces of the gop. freshman congressman tom cotton of arkansas. got a big crowd of conservatives. grinning from ear to ear already about his future in his party. >>> and richard nixon would have turned 100 years old today if he were still alive. find out how his legacy is still trying to get shaped by his supporters and why he might be the most...
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. >>> also the pentagon officially lifted the ban on women in combat today. in reality women have already been in combat for some time, certainly exposed to enemy fire as tammy duckworth can attest to. >>> everyone agrees now is the best time to two decades to push for gun safety laws. today senator dianne feinstein introduced an assault weapons ban. i think we're going to do background checks. >>> and paul browne, who lost year called evolution lies straight from the bit of hell is back at it. he says president obama is upholding, wait for this, the soviet constitution. boy, he's up to date. >>> and this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ male announcer ] coughequence™ #8. waking the baby. [ coughs ] [ baby crying ] ♪ [ male announcer ] robitussin® liquid formula soothes your throat on contact and the active ingredient relieves your cough. robitussin®. don't suffer the coughequences™. but, dad, you've got... [ voice of dennis ] allstate. with accident forgiveness, they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. [ v
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their view is there's no better advocate for it, no better voice for cutting the pentagon that a provincial vietnam veteran like chuck hagel. >> i want to play a clip of what former general stanley mcchrystal said on the "today" show this morning. >> if president obama trusts him, i think senator hagel has the experience. he's certainly got the quality as a person. the real matter is whether the president has that level of trust. that level of trust and relationship between those people and with other members of the cabinet are the most important. >> matt, to perry's point, is a big part of this about the president just likes him? they've gotten along for many years now? >> yeah. he has a very close relationship with vice president joe biden as well from their work in the senate and a bunch of other things. perry's exactly right. we have fights coming up. the sequestration cliff is on us on march 1st. we still haven't sorted that out. so, you know, in many ways military spending has been one of the third rails of washington politics for a long time. so from obama's point of view, it's a gre
their view is there's no better advocate for it, no better voice for cutting the pentagon that a provincial vietnam veteran like chuck hagel. >> i want to play a clip of what former general stanley mcchrystal said on the "today" show this morning. >> if president obama trusts him, i think senator hagel has the experience. he's certainly got the quality as a person. the real matter is whether the president has that level of trust. that level of trust and relationship...
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hate the people trying to stop the president from picking this guy for the job he needs done at the pentagon, but i do recognize their tactics. they're the same ones they used to push the war in iraq. they say they don't like something he said hagel did 14 years ago about a gay man being put up for ambassador. i don't like it either, but, a, it was 14 years ago, and, b, i don't think it's got anything to do with why the hawks are opposing him. since when is the right wing of this country is caring for gay rights? as bill clinton would say, give me a break. and this isn't about israel's security any more than it's about ours. the right wants a hawk at defense for all occasions. someone with an itchy trigger fing mother has always got a country lind up to go to war with, iraq, afghanistan, iraq again, libya, syria, iran. sorry, the guy you lined up to be president would have picked a person you'd want as defense chief, a real genuine hawk, but mitt romney lost, didn't he? he lost. so keep firing off those anti-hagel columns and editorials, my right wing brothers, and don't worry, you won't get
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and is he suited to run a department or a big agency or a big entity like the pentagon. >> andrea, has senator corker's office or those around him explained what he was getting at there by the temperament phrasing? >> well, in fact, this has sort of lit up the e-mailing and texting around town here because the pro-hagel group, the people supporting him, former staff members, are asking, you know, what was he talking about because he did not get along well with some of his republican colleagues, he's known to have sort of sharp elbows but he's hardly the only senator who is known to be a little prickly at times. so people really don't understand is this a new -- was senator corker previewing a new line of attack against the hagel nomination where they're going to try to get to his temperament and some very subjective issues or are they going to stick to the policy questions which he is very well prepared to rebut? you know, it's very hard to defend yourself from people saying, you don't have the temperament to do something. they think this might just pass but they weren't sure whether t
and is he suited to run a department or a big agency or a big entity like the pentagon. >> andrea, has senator corker's office or those around him explained what he was getting at there by the temperament phrasing? >> well, in fact, this has sort of lit up the e-mailing and texting around town here because the pro-hagel group, the people supporting him, former staff members, are asking, you know, what was he talking about because he did not get along well with some of his republican...
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. >>> also the pentagon officially lifted the ban on women in combat today. in reality women have already been in combat for some time, certainly exposed to enemy fire as tammy duckworth can attest to. >>> everyone agrees now is the best time in two decades to push for gun safety laws. today senator dianne feinstein introduced an assault weapons ban. i think we're going to do background checks. >>> and paul broun, who last year called evolution lies straight from the pit of hell, is back at it. he says president obama is upholding, wait for this, the soviet constitution. boy, he's up to date. >>> and this is "hardball," the place for politics. it's a new day. if your a man with low testosterone, you should know that axiron is here. the only underarm treatment for low t. that's right, the one you apply to the underarm. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected s
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obama had already overturned the pentagon's don't ask, don't tell policy allowing gaye people to serve openly in the military. while his administration also refused to defend the defense of marriage act, the federal law defining marriage as the union between a man and a woman. now he'd taken the biggest step. >> the president has said, loud and clear, that we are as equal as any family in this country, and it's really historic and momentous, and it makes me feel proud. >> hello! oh, it is good to be here. >> americans became used to something extraordinary, an african-american president in the white house. >> the woman who took care of me when i was a small boy was this african-american woman named jessie berry. i think about her a lot, because she couldn't have imagined that 5-year-old would be working 20 feet from the oval office, but imagine what she would think that the president i work for is an african-american man named barack obama. >> we had ruby bridges visit the white house not long ago, because we had the norman rockwell painting of her integrating her school in louisiana.
obama had already overturned the pentagon's don't ask, don't tell policy allowing gaye people to serve openly in the military. while his administration also refused to defend the defense of marriage act, the federal law defining marriage as the union between a man and a woman. now he'd taken the biggest step. >> the president has said, loud and clear, that we are as equal as any family in this country, and it's really historic and momentous, and it makes me feel proud. >> hello! oh,...
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investment in jobs, we need to go to the pentagon. we can keep a strong national security without -- we can have these savings and maintain a strong national -- >> and the president made the case during the campaign and the final point i would make here and to return what you're saying, we have seen something, i think, similar to what happened when truman gave way to eisenhower which was the passing of the time of the cold war from one party to the next and the national security act passed under truman that created this architecture that's persist since and we still have if national security council we've seen a war on terror, even though it not called that, passed from a republican president to a democratic president and i think repealing the authorization to use military force is a key step for congress to assert its prerogative and to declare that that era is over even if al qaeda is not totally vanquished we're moving to an important place and i think that's important for viewers to keep their eyes on to follow. what area should k
investment in jobs, we need to go to the pentagon. we can keep a strong national security without -- we can have these savings and maintain a strong national -- >> and the president made the case during the campaign and the final point i would make here and to return what you're saying, we have seen something, i think, similar to what happened when truman gave way to eisenhower which was the passing of the time of the cold war from one party to the next and the national security act...
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. >>> keeping up with the changing times the pentagon will boost its cyber security staff. according to "washington post" another 4,000 people will be assigned to help counter increasing threats against government computer networks. officials say they intend to focus their efforts on networks outside the u.s. [ male announcer ] how do you make america's favorite recipes? just begin with america's favorite soups. bring out chicken broccoli alfredo. or best-ever meatloaf. go to campbellskitchen.com for recipes, plus a valuable coupon. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec-d®. powerful relief of nasal congestion and other allergy symptoms -- all in one pill. zyrtec-d®. at the pharmacy counter. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates won't go up due to your first accident, and new car replacement, where, if you total your new
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like generals fighting the last war -- >> and, of course, chuck hagel would be the first head of the pentagon who was a grunt, who was an enlisted man. this would be a very important gesture. there are enlisted men and women all owe over this country for whom this would be a big deal to have one of their own at the top. that has not been talked about nearly enough. >> we are going to leave it there and we will see, as you pointed out, how this unfolds over the next 24 to 48 hours to see if he makes it through. thank you, david corn and jonathan alter. >>> stay with us, much more ahead. but first, beyonce unplugged. ♪ brave, the brave >> thank you, guys, so much. any questions? ♪ you know my heart burns for you... ♪ i'm up next, but now i'm singing the heartburn blues. hold on, prilosec isn't for fast relief. cue up alka-seltzer. it stops heartburn fast. ♪ oh what a relief it is! >>> moments ago the debt ceiling compromise passed the senate. that's a fiscal crisis temporarily averted. it comes just a day after we learn that gdp, that's the mesh shush of how well our economy is performi
like generals fighting the last war -- >> and, of course, chuck hagel would be the first head of the pentagon who was a grunt, who was an enlisted man. this would be a very important gesture. there are enlisted men and women all owe over this country for whom this would be a big deal to have one of their own at the top. that has not been talked about nearly enough. >> we are going to leave it there and we will see, as you pointed out, how this unfolds over the next 24 to 48 hours to...
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and the idea that these operations shouldn't exist in the cia should be done in the pentagon and one of the things the president would need in order to move some of these operation into the pentagon is a willing cia director who wouldn't fight it so if john brennan was willing to allow a lot of these operations to move into the defense spheres out of the secretive world of the cia that would be a good outcome. >> we have to ask not just should it be done in the cio arrest the pentagon or should it be done at all and i think of four years ago when brennan was going to first be nominated but was forced to withdraw his -- any consideration. and i think of madea benjamin standing up, the protester at code pink, who stood up while he was speaking and she said i speak here to remember the 16-year-old in pakistan killed in a drone attack when he was simply investigating what was happening. he had held a news conference the day before to say what's happening in my country and she said, i speak for 16-year-old alachi, the son of the cleric in yemen. 16 years old born in denver. how was it two
and the idea that these operations shouldn't exist in the cia should be done in the pentagon and one of the things the president would need in order to move some of these operation into the pentagon is a willing cia director who wouldn't fight it so if john brennan was willing to allow a lot of these operations to move into the defense spheres out of the secretive world of the cia that would be a good outcome. >> we have to ask not just should it be done in the cio arrest the pentagon or...
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johnson at the pentagon gave a speech saying we need to think about when we bring the war on terror to a close. when is it over? >> it's never over. >> that is the problem. we had a person on the program who is the only one to vote against the use of military force. it's the document from which all authority flows. she is proposing we repeal that operation. we are out of afghanistan. osama bin laden is dead. al qaeda is the al qaeda that attacked us has been destroyed. >> if you do it and there's an attack on american soil then you are the president who ended the war on terror. this is a president of any ideology, of any party. >> 1,000% the problem. >> yeah. >> you are taking on tremendous political risk. the reason they endure is because part of the calculation is that. if you are the one -- this is true about guantanamo. if they had closed guantanamo and took the right position to close it. it's not closed because of congressional opposition. if you close it and god forbid someone who is a guantanamo deta detainee, the political blowback would be insane. it's not like they are crazy
johnson at the pentagon gave a speech saying we need to think about when we bring the war on terror to a close. when is it over? >> it's never over. >> that is the problem. we had a person on the program who is the only one to vote against the use of military force. it's the document from which all authority flows. she is proposing we repeal that operation. we are out of afghanistan. osama bin laden is dead. al qaeda is the al qaeda that attacked us has been destroyed. >> if...
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and they threw them all over the pentagon. the pentagon goes, geez, what do we do now? and they decided, gosh, i guess we better investigate them. so the inspector general at the pentagon was ordered by secretary panetta from his plane, he's traveling and says, gosh, we better do the investigation. so that's been rolling along. and there was never a thought to be evidence of real wrongdoing. general allen has been held up. he's our commander in kabul. he's a very fine general. and so it's good that this finally ended today. >> so what we've got, 9:00 eastern time, in about 15 minutes, the benghazi hearings, and secretary of state hillary clinton. what can we expect? >> this is going to be a tough swan song for secretary clinton. she's been such a tireless secretary of state, and she's going to be held to account by republicans, who are still upset about what happened in benghazi, where four americans were killed. i think she's going to push back. i think she's going to say to congress, look, if you care this much about the security of our embassies, then you've got to p
and they threw them all over the pentagon. the pentagon goes, geez, what do we do now? and they decided, gosh, i guess we better investigate them. so the inspector general at the pentagon was ordered by secretary panetta from his plane, he's traveling and says, gosh, we better do the investigation. so that's been rolling along. and there was never a thought to be evidence of real wrongdoing. general allen has been held up. he's our commander in kabul. he's a very fine general. and so it's good...
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what's the big idea that you want everybody in the pentagon to know about what you learned? >> well, there's a bunch, but the biggest one is simply how ubiquitous an old-old guerrilla warfare actually is. this is not something new. this is not a passing fad. this is not something that's going to go away when we leave afghanistan. >> give us historical context. what was the first example of guerrilla warfare? >> glad you asked because the first guerrilla wars are as old as man did kind. tribal warfare is essentially guerrilla warfare. tribes don't have uniforms. they fight with ambush-type tactics. this type of warfare has been going on as long as we've been on this earth. conventional warfare is a relatively recent and relatively rare invention. and here's a good question for you, joe. what was the last conventional war the world has seen? it's a hard one to get. i had to look this up. the last conventional war was in 2008 when georgia was invaded by russia. it lasted a few weeks. so there have been almost no conventional wars around the world, and yet thousands of people ar
what's the big idea that you want everybody in the pentagon to know about what you learned? >> well, there's a bunch, but the biggest one is simply how ubiquitous an old-old guerrilla warfare actually is. this is not something new. this is not a passing fad. this is not something that's going to go away when we leave afghanistan. >> give us historical context. what was the first example of guerrilla warfare? >> glad you asked because the first guerrilla wars are as old as man...
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she's also one of the plaintiffs in the aclu's lawsuit against the pentagon. let you listen to her and we'll talk about it on the other side. >> everybody wanted to make it a debate about whether or not women should be in combat. when the actual issue was that women are in combat. they're serving in combat. they're engaging the enemy, acting with valor, serving and not being recognized. i don't mean recognized with awards, with the correct job title that will get them promoted. >> i think that's kind of key what you were hitting on there. we have the big announcement next week. how soon before we see things actually change? what's the timetable for putting things in place to where, all right, they do start getting that recognition they so deserve? >> certainly the joint chiefs and it was a unanimous decision along with the secretary of defense, leon panetta, laid out for the services that every role should try to be open. and if the services decide that their particular roles, particular jobs that they just for whatever reason that women wouldn't meet the qual
she's also one of the plaintiffs in the aclu's lawsuit against the pentagon. let you listen to her and we'll talk about it on the other side. >> everybody wanted to make it a debate about whether or not women should be in combat. when the actual issue was that women are in combat. they're serving in combat. they're engaging the enemy, acting with valor, serving and not being recognized. i don't mean recognized with awards, with the correct job title that will get them promoted. >> i...
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and anybody who believes that he's going to pick up the phone and call the pentagon and ask any cabinet member, hey, should i go into iran or not? there are a lot of cabinet members that aren't really sure they're still cabinet members. the president doesn't talk to his cabinet. he's going to make that decision inside a tight, small group in the white house. >> you know, but there has been this sort of fake consensus for the last four years that everybody supports a hard line on iran. it's ill defined what has been. i think obama is shattering that in saying there is a real policy debate on iran. hagel is going to prompt a real policy debate. he's opposed sanctions in the past, opposed military action. i think obama is at least, whether he wants to or not, sending a signal that he's much less eager to have military action against iran than at least a lot of republicans in the senate. >> fascinating. >> that's going to show up in a web video. >> is it really? >> you did good. >> i appreciate that. >> you didn't say all those words -- >> trained not to? >> only buzzfeed could buzzfeed it
and anybody who believes that he's going to pick up the phone and call the pentagon and ask any cabinet member, hey, should i go into iran or not? there are a lot of cabinet members that aren't really sure they're still cabinet members. the president doesn't talk to his cabinet. he's going to make that decision inside a tight, small group in the white house. >> you know, but there has been this sort of fake consensus for the last four years that everybody supports a hard line on iran....
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also the administration is behind him and pentagon and white house working to schedule these visits you mentioned to senator schumer and others. also, he's reaching out to veteran's organizations as a key constituency saying i need your help. he used to head the uso and dad was a tail gunner in world war ii and one of the operatives, murr murray, is shepharding him and finally, they're getting together after letting him hang out so long. >> at the inaugural ball, 40,000 people will show up to celebrate. >> this is the more populist, they were talking about going from 10 inaugural balls to one plus the service member ball. it turns out that ball for the general public is for 40,000. these are over two floors, the huge washington convention center. smokey robinson there, big name entertainers, john legend just announced this morning, chelsea clinton will be the honorary national day of service saturday and members of congress with participate in that and doing service projects saturday two days before the inauguration in all 50 states. >> thank you. >>> coming up, lance armstrong comes cl
also the administration is behind him and pentagon and white house working to schedule these visits you mentioned to senator schumer and others. also, he's reaching out to veteran's organizations as a key constituency saying i need your help. he used to head the uso and dad was a tail gunner in world war ii and one of the operatives, murr murray, is shepharding him and finally, they're getting together after letting him hang out so long. >> at the inaugural ball, 40,000 people will show...
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essentially repeal the amf, that would say this era of war is -- jay johnson, the general kuns counsel of the pentagon, gave a speech about thinking about ending that war. we think about iraq and afghanistan. the hot wars. boots on the grounds wars. the broader framework of war under which we labor through the amf i agree with you the odds are slim that we're going to see a repeal of that, an end to that, but i think it's a place for the conversation to go in the second term as the president headed towards withdrawal with afghanistan and the physical presence we have of u.s. soldiers. >> as we start to understand what an obama foreign policy is. i mean, you look back at the first inaugural just compared with the second inaugural address. the first inaugural address was about ending the era of bush and cheney. that's really what it was about. it was about we're going to do this in i different way. if you unclench your fist. it's a different time now. he has to figure out what he is going to do affirmatively, not in reaction to the way somebody else did it that he disapproved of. >> look at the change i
essentially repeal the amf, that would say this era of war is -- jay johnson, the general kuns counsel of the pentagon, gave a speech about thinking about ending that war. we think about iraq and afghanistan. the hot wars. boots on the grounds wars. the broader framework of war under which we labor through the amf i agree with you the odds are slim that we're going to see a repeal of that, an end to that, but i think it's a place for the conversation to go in the second term as the president...
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or even in 10 years, we're going to have a budget that is completely taken up by entitlements in the pentagon. and that will be the only thing we're capable of funding. it's the only thing we'll be able to use the power of some progressive government to try to change. you can't be -- i don't think you can be a really good advocate for education, if at the same time, you also don't make a powerful argument to get our priorities in order and make sure that we're capable, as a society, of responding to what we need to, because we are not fixed into a budget math problem that is so intractable as senator coburn says, that we sort of just drive off the edge. >> and michael, we have no money for discretionary domestic spending to invest in education, infrastructure, r&d. >> right. >> the things that government, we've grown to expect government to do, if we don't take care of medicare and medicaid. we say it time and time again, yet i get politicians on this show that still pretend that you can take care of waste, fraud, and abuse. and we'll take care of it. and they'll be selling some of the specta
or even in 10 years, we're going to have a budget that is completely taken up by entitlements in the pentagon. and that will be the only thing we're capable of funding. it's the only thing we'll be able to use the power of some progressive government to try to change. you can't be -- i don't think you can be a really good advocate for education, if at the same time, you also don't make a powerful argument to get our priorities in order and make sure that we're capable, as a society, of...